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		<title>By: tim_stebbins</title>
		<link>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-826</link>
		<author>tim_stebbins</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Chuck Davis

The record clearly shows the surplus and unused donations to the SHOUT program were intended for, given to and accepted by the SCA Association.  There was no intent to have them go to the Minuteman Foundation.

The proper action is for the Minuteman Foundation to immediately return $6,700 plus interest to the SCA Association.

As to the claim that Pulte/Del Webb owed the Minuteman foundation $10,000 for some unspecified reason but sent the check to the Association by mistake, that is a matter between the Minuteman Foundation and Pute/Del Webb.

The proper action is for the Minuteman Foundation to immediately return $10,000 plus interest to the SCA Association.  Our board can then investigate the matter with the aid of RMI.  If it is determined SCA received a payment of $10,000 from Pulte/Del Webb prior to October of 2006 that was not due to SCA the board could pass a proper motion to return the $10,000 to Pulte/Del Webb.  

The Minuteman Foundation can then pursue any claim for $10,000 directly with Pulte/Del Webb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Chuck Davis</p>
<p>The record clearly shows the surplus and unused donations to the SHOUT program were intended for, given to and accepted by the SCA Association.  There was no intent to have them go to the Minuteman Foundation.</p>
<p>The proper action is for the Minuteman Foundation to immediately return $6,700 plus interest to the SCA Association.</p>
<p>As to the claim that Pulte/Del Webb owed the Minuteman foundation $10,000 for some unspecified reason but sent the check to the Association by mistake, that is a matter between the Minuteman Foundation and Pute/Del Webb.</p>
<p>The proper action is for the Minuteman Foundation to immediately return $10,000 plus interest to the SCA Association.  Our board can then investigate the matter with the aid of RMI.  If it is determined SCA received a payment of $10,000 from Pulte/Del Webb prior to October of 2006 that was not due to SCA the board could pass a proper motion to return the $10,000 to Pulte/Del Webb.  </p>
<p>The Minuteman Foundation can then pursue any claim for $10,000 directly with Pulte/Del Webb</p>
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		<title>By: bobfrank</title>
		<link>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-825</link>
		<author>bobfrank</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-825</guid>
		<description>Chuck Davis, since you always serve as the designated hitter for all of the past board members, particularly Favil West, you really have no room to complain about who is posting for whom.

Concerning "willful misconduct":  In my opinion, the abject failure of Favil West, Bob Berman, Kay Dwyer, Lanie Berg, Arnie Snow and Terry DaSilva to make sure that the $16,700 funds transfer to MMF followed the statutes and SCA governing documents is clear evidence of "willful misconduct".  All of them knew it was a bogus transaction.  All of them knew they had to have a public board vote to authorized the funds transfer.  And, none of them did anything to prevent the violation (as far as we can find out). 

None of them have since provided any information to the contrary to any SCA members or the current Treasurer who have worked on this issue.  And, none of them have done anything to claim it was a "simple error".  That is what I call willful misconduct.  What do you call it--smart business? 

Since you are the Treasurer of MMF you are personally involved by accepting this bogus transaction.  Since you now know that the transaction has been proven to have been invalid, will you agree with Sonny Sonnenfeld and other members that you made a mistake in accepting the money and that it should be immediately refunded to SCA?  Surely you would not want to retain funds that were improperly "donated"?  And, please do not be offended by my asking.  I am just doing my job as a director for a different corporation with different goals and objectives.

Bob Frank
SCA Director
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Davis, since you always serve as the designated hitter for all of the past board members, particularly Favil West, you really have no room to complain about who is posting for whom.</p>
<p>Concerning &#8220;willful misconduct&#8221;:  In my opinion, the abject failure of Favil West, Bob Berman, Kay Dwyer, Lanie Berg, Arnie Snow and Terry DaSilva to make sure that the $16,700 funds transfer to MMF followed the statutes and SCA governing documents is clear evidence of &#8220;willful misconduct&#8221;.  All of them knew it was a bogus transaction.  All of them knew they had to have a public board vote to authorized the funds transfer.  And, none of them did anything to prevent the violation (as far as we can find out). </p>
<p>None of them have since provided any information to the contrary to any SCA members or the current Treasurer who have worked on this issue.  And, none of them have done anything to claim it was a &#8220;simple error&#8221;.  That is what I call willful misconduct.  What do you call it&#8211;smart business? </p>
<p>Since you are the Treasurer of MMF you are personally involved by accepting this bogus transaction.  Since you now know that the transaction has been proven to have been invalid, will you agree with Sonny Sonnenfeld and other members that you made a mistake in accepting the money and that it should be immediately refunded to SCA?  Surely you would not want to retain funds that were improperly &#8220;donated&#8221;?  And, please do not be offended by my asking.  I am just doing my job as a director for a different corporation with different goals and objectives.</p>
<p>Bob Frank<br />
SCA Director</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W Davis</title>
		<link>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-823</link>
		<author>Charles W Davis</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-823</guid>
		<description>Bob, 

Sorry, but I can't determine the writer when there is no indication on the posting. In this case, the original poster, could learn from my response. 

You have never been able to prove "willful misconduct" by any of the current or present board members. Only opinions based on your interpretation of events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, </p>
<p>Sorry, but I can&#8217;t determine the writer when there is no indication on the posting. In this case, the original poster, could learn from my response. </p>
<p>You have never been able to prove &#8220;willful misconduct&#8221; by any of the current or present board members. Only opinions based on your interpretation of events.</p>
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		<title>By: bobfrank</title>
		<link>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-821</link>
		<author>bobfrank</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-821</guid>
		<description>Chuck, once again, you made a mistake.  I did not write the article.  

We have many contributors to AV blog, and they have the option to post under admin or The Voice if they prefer to have readers focus on the content--instead of the person.
 
If one of those authors of that article elects to write to you directly they can.  Otherwise, please concentrate on the issue instead of trying to harass the author.

Meanwhile, we can note that you, once again, missed the point of the posting.  The authors were complaining about the SCA Board and CAM--not the Minuteman Foundation.

If readers will look closely, every complaint in the posting was directed at willful misconduct by the involved Directors and CAM members (which could include Favil West, Bob Berman, Kay Dwyer, Lanie Berg, Arnie Snow, Terry DaSilva, Roz Berman and Shirley Cheri).  That is the chain of authority and trust involved in the misconduct and the subsequent cover ups.

While your report on the activities of the Minuteman Foundation is welcomed, there is no need to defend MMF.  The fault in the history of this bogus transaction is due entirely to SCA Director and CAM misconduct.

Bob Frank
SCA Director
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, once again, you made a mistake.  I did not write the article.  </p>
<p>We have many contributors to AV blog, and they have the option to post under admin or The Voice if they prefer to have readers focus on the content&#8211;instead of the person.</p>
<p>If one of those authors of that article elects to write to you directly they can.  Otherwise, please concentrate on the issue instead of trying to harass the author.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, we can note that you, once again, missed the point of the posting.  The authors were complaining about the SCA Board and CAM&#8211;not the Minuteman Foundation.</p>
<p>If readers will look closely, every complaint in the posting was directed at willful misconduct by the involved Directors and CAM members (which could include Favil West, Bob Berman, Kay Dwyer, Lanie Berg, Arnie Snow, Terry DaSilva, Roz Berman and Shirley Cheri).  That is the chain of authority and trust involved in the misconduct and the subsequent cover ups.</p>
<p>While your report on the activities of the Minuteman Foundation is welcomed, there is no need to defend MMF.  The fault in the history of this bogus transaction is due entirely to SCA Director and CAM misconduct.</p>
<p>Bob Frank<br />
SCA Director</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W Davis</title>
		<link>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-819</link>
		<author>Charles W Davis</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.anthemvoice.org/2008/10/06/board-wastes-more-money/#comment-819</guid>
		<description>Bob, 

I have a few comments. In the 3rd paragraph, you state: "...An idea emerged...." The Idea did not just emerge. It was a part of the plans from the day (3/11/2003) that the Minuteman Foundation proposed that Del Webb gift the building to the Association.  

Later you write: "...On behalf of MMF, Favil West and Bob Berman charged SCA $16,700.  That is a huge 45% markup for acting as a middleman - plus those same officers still insist on the free use of the shelves now belonging to SCA..."

No markup! The Minuteman Foundation never “charged” anything. The total of that check included two amounts; 1). $6,993.36 and 2). $10,000 that were inadvertently written to the Association instead of the intended recipient, the Minuteman Foundation. Amount #1, from Shout. Amount #2 from Pulte/Del Webb. Both amounts were combined and the $16,700 check was issued by the Association to forward the funds to the appropriate recipient. Think about it a moment and you will realize that the Foundation might be due an additional $296.36.

Later you write: "...Perhaps they knew that the amount and purpose (donation) and the self-dealing was not legal?..."
You apparently don’t understand the words that you use: Self-dealing involves a situation where one takes an action in an official capacity which involves dealing with oneself in a private capacity and which confers a benefit on oneself. No benefit accrued to any of the Board Members.

Still later, you write: "...We each have to act as we see fit, but many will remember this case the next time the Minuteman Foundation leadership comes with its hand out...."

The Minuteman Foundation has never come to the Association with its hand out. Just the opposite is true. The Minuteman Foundation raised money to buy Video Cameras, Television Monitors, Computers, and other items for the Association's Channel 99 TV production facilities. 

This year to date, the Minuteman Foundation has contributed $6,589 to the Association's Community Service Group. 

During 2007, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $9,330 to the Association's Community Service Group. 

Likewise in 2006, the amount was $5,810. In 2006, the total Leasehold Improvements to the Community Service Building was $24,533! 

In 2005, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $2,640 to the Association's Community Service Group and an additional $11,367 to support the Association's Channel 99. There was also $576 contributed to Leasehold Improvements. 

In 2004, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $5,612 for the Association's Community Service Group, and an additional $1,711 for the Association's Channel 99.

My Excel spreadsheet calculates that the total of the contributions from the Minuteman Foundation to the Association's buildings and organizations amounts to: $68,168!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, </p>
<p>I have a few comments. In the 3rd paragraph, you state: &#8220;&#8230;An idea emerged&#8230;.&#8221; The Idea did not just emerge. It was a part of the plans from the day (3/11/2003) that the Minuteman Foundation proposed that Del Webb gift the building to the Association.  </p>
<p>Later you write: &#8220;&#8230;On behalf of MMF, Favil West and Bob Berman charged SCA $16,700.  That is a huge 45% markup for acting as a middleman - plus those same officers still insist on the free use of the shelves now belonging to SCA&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>No markup! The Minuteman Foundation never “charged” anything. The total of that check included two amounts; 1). $6,993.36 and 2). $10,000 that were inadvertently written to the Association instead of the intended recipient, the Minuteman Foundation. Amount #1, from Shout. Amount #2 from Pulte/Del Webb. Both amounts were combined and the $16,700 check was issued by the Association to forward the funds to the appropriate recipient. Think about it a moment and you will realize that the Foundation might be due an additional $296.36.</p>
<p>Later you write: &#8220;&#8230;Perhaps they knew that the amount and purpose (donation) and the self-dealing was not legal?&#8230;&#8221;<br />
You apparently don’t understand the words that you use: Self-dealing involves a situation where one takes an action in an official capacity which involves dealing with oneself in a private capacity and which confers a benefit on oneself. No benefit accrued to any of the Board Members.</p>
<p>Still later, you write: &#8220;&#8230;We each have to act as we see fit, but many will remember this case the next time the Minuteman Foundation leadership comes with its hand out&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Minuteman Foundation has never come to the Association with its hand out. Just the opposite is true. The Minuteman Foundation raised money to buy Video Cameras, Television Monitors, Computers, and other items for the Association&#8217;s Channel 99 TV production facilities. </p>
<p>This year to date, the Minuteman Foundation has contributed $6,589 to the Association&#8217;s Community Service Group. </p>
<p>During 2007, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $9,330 to the Association&#8217;s Community Service Group. </p>
<p>Likewise in 2006, the amount was $5,810. In 2006, the total Leasehold Improvements to the Community Service Building was $24,533! </p>
<p>In 2005, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $2,640 to the Association&#8217;s Community Service Group and an additional $11,367 to support the Association&#8217;s Channel 99. There was also $576 contributed to Leasehold Improvements. </p>
<p>In 2004, the Minuteman Foundation contributed $5,612 for the Association&#8217;s Community Service Group, and an additional $1,711 for the Association&#8217;s Channel 99.</p>
<p>My Excel spreadsheet calculates that the total of the contributions from the Minuteman Foundation to the Association&#8217;s buildings and organizations amounts to: $68,168!!!</p>
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